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NNTP

2021-09-17T01:33:20Z

Cel: /* Claws Mail */ Improve formatting

The '''Network News Transfer Protocol''' ('''NNTP''') is an application protocol used for transporting Usenet news articles (''netnews'') between news servers, and for reading/posting articles by the end user client applications.

Usenet was originally designed based on the [[UUCP]] network, with most article transfers taking place over direct point-to-point telephone links between news servers, which were powerful time-sharing systems. Readers and posters logged into these computers reading the articles directly from the local disk.

The tildeverse has a small, private net news network that can be accessed through several tildes using clients below. [[tilde.club]] and [[yourtilde.com]] provide public access for users outside of the tildeverse, or those who want access without first connecting to a tilde server.

== Participating tildes ==
The following lists all of the known tildes that provides access to the tildeverse netnews.

=== tilde.club ===
Our primary gateway for those accessing from the outside. Read-write, accessible via <code>news.tilde.club</code>, <code>nntp.tilde.club</code>, and <code>news.tildeverse.org</code>, port 119. See also https://news.tildeverse.org/.

=== tilde.team ===
Read-only, accessible via <code>news.tilde.team</code>, <code>nntp.tilde.team</code>, and <code>nntp.tildeverse.org</code>, port 119. You have to [[ssh]] inside to post.

=== cosmic.voyage ===
Read-only, accessible via <code>cosmic.voyage</code> , port 119. You have to [[ssh]] inside to post.

=== yourtilde.com ===
Read-write, accessible via <code>yourtilde.com</code>, port 119.

== News clients ==

=== slrn ===

[[slrn.html|slrn]] is a newsreader; see http://slrn.sourceforge.net/ for details.

First, add <code>export NNTPSERVER="localhost"</code> to your shellrc (<code>.bashrc</code>, <code>.zshrc</code>) and source it (<code>source path/to/.shellrc</code>).

Then run <code>slrn --create</code> to create the slrn config file, and lastly <code>slrn -d</code> to populate group names.

You’re now ready to run <code>slrn</code>! If the list is empty, press <code>L</code> (for list-groups) and enter <code>*</code> in the field for all groups. You might need to enter each group (pressing <code>space</code>) to get a proper count for how many (if any) unread messages there are.

=== pine/alpine ===

[[pine]] can read news; this [https://tilde.wiki/wiki/Tutorial http://www.chebucto.ns.ca/Help/News/PineNews.html] might help. You can also read the [http://www.washington.edu/pine/faq/news.html FAQ from U Washington].

In Pine do

# ‘S’ for setup, ‘C’ for config, then
# set ‘NNTP Server (for news)’ to news.tilde.club
# Then go back to the main menu, and pick Folder List,
# A for add, ^t for list

=== Emacs ===

<code>M-x gnus</code> in [[[#emacs|emacs]]] can read news, but you better know [[[#emacs|emacs]]] first before you start.

=== lynx ===

[[Lynx]] reads news, a la <code>lynx news://news.tilde.club/tilde.general</code>. It can even post news, but you have to design your own headers.

=== tin ===

There is also [[tin.html|tin]].

=== Thunderbird ===

If you’re using Thunderbird for email, it can also be configured for news.

# Go to the <code>Tools</code> menu, -> <code>Account Settings</code>
# Under <code>Account Actions</code> click <code>Add Other Account...</code>
# Select “Newsgroup Account”
# Type in the name you and email address you want associated with your posts. This can be your real name and tilde.club email address, or any other name (like your tilde username) and any other email address.
# For the “Newsgroup Server” type <code>news.tilde.club</code>. Give it a name (“news.tilde.club” works fine), confirm a couple of times and you’re done! You should see a new entry for news.tilde.club in your accounts list.
# Right click on “news.tilde.club” in your accounts list and click <code>Subscribe...</code>
# You should see a dialog with a tree of news topics. Click one and click <code>Subscribe</code> to subscribe to the topic. When Thunderbird is running, it will periodically check for new messages to each of these topics. You will also see a list of topics in your accounts list with unread counts.
# To post to a topic, open the topic and click the “Write” button.

=== SeaMonkey ===

The instructions for SeaMonkey are mostly the same as Thunderbird. The difference is that if you already created an account in SeaMonkey (whether for mail, RSS, or news), you create a new account by using either of the two options. Both of them will bring you to the Account Wizard.
* Go to the <code>File</code> menu, -> <code>Account</code>
* Go to the <code>Edit</code> menu, -> <code>Mail & Newsgroups Account Settings</code>, -> <code>Add Account...</code>

===Claws Mail===
*Setup[[File:Claws-mail-new-account-preferences-tilde-news.png|link=|thumb]]
**If you have any draft messages open, close them or you will get an error in the next step.
**In the "Configuration" menu, click "Create New Account..."
**In the "Basic" settings:
***Set the "Name of account" (optional).
***In "Personal information", Set "Full name" and "Mail address". Set "Organization" (optional).
***In "Server information", click the menu for "Protocol" and select "News (NNTP)".
***Set "News server", enter <code>nntp.tildeverse.org</code>, or your other news server address as appropriate.
**Set other settings as desired.
*Connecting via a Proxy[[File:Claws Mail - Tilde News - Proxy settings.png|link=|thumb]]
**If you need to access your tilde news via a proxy, you can do so in the account preferences as follows.
**If not in the initial account creation, go to the account preferences from the "Configuration menu": If you are in the tilde folders already, choose "Preferences for current account..."; otherwise choose "Edit accounts...", select the account from the list, and click "Edit".
**Go to the "Proxy" page.
**Check "Use proxy server", and enter the appropriate details.
**Note: to establish a proxy connection to your tilde server using SSH, you can the [https://man.openbsd.org/ssh#D ssh -D] option.
**Click "OK".
*Subscribing[[File:Claws Mail - Folders - Tilde News.png|thumb]]
**After creating the account, it should appear as a folder in the main window.
**Right-click the folder and choose "Subscribe to newsgroup..."
**If you get an error, "Can't retrieve newsgroup list", try clicking "Refresh". Clicking "Refresh" must be done sometimes in case there are new groups available. If you still get an error, you may need to go back to the account settings and make appropriate adjustments. To debug the network connection you may want to check the network log: "Tools" menu -> "Network Log" (Shift+Ctrl+L).[[File:Claws Mail - Newsgroup subscription.png|thumb]]
**Select the newsgroups you want to subscribe too. You can use the "Find groups" text box and "Search" button to search through the list of newsgroup names.
**Click "OK".
**The newsgroups you subscribed to will then appear in your folder list.
**Eventually, the newsgroups will fill up with messages. You can trigger messages to be fetched from the "Message" menu -> "Receive" -> "Get from all accounts" (or the particular account name).[[File:Claws Mail - Tilde News - newsgroups.png|thumb]]
*Writing and replying[[File:Claws Mail - Tilde news - Viewing a message.png|thumb]]
** Reply to news messages similarly as replying to email messages.
**To start a new thread, go to the "Message" menu and select "Compose a news message".

[[Category:Services]]
[[Category:Projects]]
[[Category:Protocols]]

NNTP

2021-09-17T01:31:53Z

Cel: /* Claws Mail */ Add info about Subscribing

The '''Network News Transfer Protocol''' ('''NNTP''') is an application protocol used for transporting Usenet news articles (''netnews'') between news servers, and for reading/posting articles by the end user client applications.

Usenet was originally designed based on the [[UUCP]] network, with most article transfers taking place over direct point-to-point telephone links between news servers, which were powerful time-sharing systems. Readers and posters logged into these computers reading the articles directly from the local disk.

The tildeverse has a small, private net news network that can be accessed through several tildes using clients below. [[tilde.club]] and [[yourtilde.com]] provide public access for users outside of the tildeverse, or those who want access without first connecting to a tilde server.

== Participating tildes ==
The following lists all of the known tildes that provides access to the tildeverse netnews.

=== tilde.club ===
Our primary gateway for those accessing from the outside. Read-write, accessible via <code>news.tilde.club</code>, <code>nntp.tilde.club</code>, and <code>news.tildeverse.org</code>, port 119. See also https://news.tildeverse.org/.

=== tilde.team ===
Read-only, accessible via <code>news.tilde.team</code>, <code>nntp.tilde.team</code>, and <code>nntp.tildeverse.org</code>, port 119. You have to [[ssh]] inside to post.

=== cosmic.voyage ===
Read-only, accessible via <code>cosmic.voyage</code> , port 119. You have to [[ssh]] inside to post.

=== yourtilde.com ===
Read-write, accessible via <code>yourtilde.com</code>, port 119.

== News clients ==

=== slrn ===

[[slrn.html|slrn]] is a newsreader; see http://slrn.sourceforge.net/ for details.

First, add <code>export NNTPSERVER="localhost"</code> to your shellrc (<code>.bashrc</code>, <code>.zshrc</code>) and source it (<code>source path/to/.shellrc</code>).

Then run <code>slrn --create</code> to create the slrn config file, and lastly <code>slrn -d</code> to populate group names.

You’re now ready to run <code>slrn</code>! If the list is empty, press <code>L</code> (for list-groups) and enter <code>*</code> in the field for all groups. You might need to enter each group (pressing <code>space</code>) to get a proper count for how many (if any) unread messages there are.

=== pine/alpine ===

[[pine]] can read news; this [https://tilde.wiki/wiki/Tutorial http://www.chebucto.ns.ca/Help/News/PineNews.html] might help. You can also read the [http://www.washington.edu/pine/faq/news.html FAQ from U Washington].

In Pine do

# ‘S’ for setup, ‘C’ for config, then
# set ‘NNTP Server (for news)’ to news.tilde.club
# Then go back to the main menu, and pick Folder List,
# A for add, ^t for list

=== Emacs ===

<code>M-x gnus</code> in [[[#emacs|emacs]]] can read news, but you better know [[[#emacs|emacs]]] first before you start.

=== lynx ===

[[Lynx]] reads news, a la <code>lynx news://news.tilde.club/tilde.general</code>. It can even post news, but you have to design your own headers.

=== tin ===

There is also [[tin.html|tin]].

=== Thunderbird ===

If you’re using Thunderbird for email, it can also be configured for news.

# Go to the <code>Tools</code> menu, -> <code>Account Settings</code>
# Under <code>Account Actions</code> click <code>Add Other Account...</code>
# Select “Newsgroup Account”
# Type in the name you and email address you want associated with your posts. This can be your real name and tilde.club email address, or any other name (like your tilde username) and any other email address.
# For the “Newsgroup Server” type <code>news.tilde.club</code>. Give it a name (“news.tilde.club” works fine), confirm a couple of times and you’re done! You should see a new entry for news.tilde.club in your accounts list.
# Right click on “news.tilde.club” in your accounts list and click <code>Subscribe...</code>
# You should see a dialog with a tree of news topics. Click one and click <code>Subscribe</code> to subscribe to the topic. When Thunderbird is running, it will periodically check for new messages to each of these topics. You will also see a list of topics in your accounts list with unread counts.
# To post to a topic, open the topic and click the “Write” button.

=== SeaMonkey ===

The instructions for SeaMonkey are mostly the same as Thunderbird. The difference is that if you already created an account in SeaMonkey (whether for mail, RSS, or news), you create a new account by using either of the two options. Both of them will bring you to the Account Wizard.
* Go to the <code>File</code> menu, -> <code>Account</code>
* Go to the <code>Edit</code> menu, -> <code>Mail & Newsgroups Account Settings</code>, -> <code>Add Account...</code>

===Claws Mail===
*Setup[[File:Claws-mail-new-account-preferences-tilde-news.png|link=|thumb]]
**If you have any draft messages open, close them or you will get an error in the next step.
**In the "Configuration" menu, click "Create New Account..."
**In the "Basic" settings:
***Set the "Name of account" (optional).
***In "Personal information", Set "Full name" and "Mail address". Set "Organization" (optional).
***In "Server information", click the menu for "Protocol" and select "News (NNTP)".
***Set "News server", enter <code>nntp.tildeverse.org</code>, or your other news server address as appropriate.
**Set other settings as desired.
*Connecting via a Proxy[[File:Claws Mail - Tilde News - Proxy settings.png|link=|thumb]]
**If you need to access your tilde news via a proxy, you can do so in the account preferences as follows.
**If not in the initial account creation, go to the account preferences from the "Configuration menu": If you are in the tilde folders already, choose "Preferences for current account..."; otherwise choose "Edit accounts...", select the account from the list, and click "Edit".
**Go to the "Proxy" page.
**Check "Use proxy server", and enter the appropriate details.
**Note: to establish a proxy connection to your tilde server using SSH, you can the [https://man.openbsd.org/ssh#D ssh -D] option.
**Click "OK".
*Subscribing[[File:Claws Mail - Folders - Tilde News.png|thumb]]
**After creating the account, it should appear as a folder in the main window.
**Right-click the folder and choose "Subscribe to newsgroup..."
**If you get an error, "Can't retrieve newsgroup list", try clicking "Refresh". Clicking "Refresh" must be done sometimes in case there are new groups available. If you still get an error, you may need to go back to the account settings and make appropriate adjustments. To debug the network connection you may want to check the network log: "Tools" menu -> "Network Log" (Shift+Ctrl+L).[[File:Claws Mail - Newsgroup subscription.png|thumb]]
**Select the newsgroups you want to subscribe too. You can use the "Find groups" text box and "Search" button to search through the list of newsgroup names.
**Click "OK".[[File:Claws Mail - Tilde News - newsgroups.png|thumb]]
**The newsgroups you subscribed to will then appear in your folder list.
**Eventually, the newsgroups will fill up with messages. You can trigger messages to be fetched from the "Message" menu -> "Receive" -> "Get from all accounts" (or the particular account name).
**[[File:Claws Mail - Tilde news - Viewing a message.png|thumb]]
**Reply to news messages similarly as replying to email messages.
**To start a new thread, go to the "Message" menu and select "Compose a news message".

[[Category:Services]]
[[Category:Projects]]
[[Category:Protocols]]

File:Claws Mail - Tilde news - Viewing a message.png

2021-09-17T01:27:39Z

Cel:

Viewing message "What happened to the UUCP Grassroots site?" from Tilde News in Claws Mail. Names and mail addresses partially pixelated, for privacy and spam prevention.

File:Claws Mail - Tilde News - newsgroups.png

2021-09-17T01:12:19Z

Cel:

Tilde News newsgroup folders in Claws Mail

File:Claws Mail - Newsgroup subscription.png

2021-09-17T01:06:19Z

Cel:

Subscribing to Tilde News newsgroups in Claws Mail

File:Claws Mail - Folders - Tilde News.png

2021-09-17T01:00:08Z

Cel:

Part of a Claws Mail main window - folder list - including a mailbox, empty feeds folder, and empty "Tilde News" folder.

NNTP

2021-09-17T00:54:28Z

Cel: /* News clients */ Add Claws Mail

The '''Network News Transfer Protocol''' ('''NNTP''') is an application protocol used for transporting Usenet news articles (''netnews'') between news servers, and for reading/posting articles by the end user client applications.

Usenet was originally designed based on the [[UUCP]] network, with most article transfers taking place over direct point-to-point telephone links between news servers, which were powerful time-sharing systems. Readers and posters logged into these computers reading the articles directly from the local disk.

The tildeverse has a small, private net news network that can be accessed through several tildes using clients below. [[tilde.club]] and [[yourtilde.com]] provide public access for users outside of the tildeverse, or those who want access without first connecting to a tilde server.

== Participating tildes ==
The following lists all of the known tildes that provides access to the tildeverse netnews.

=== tilde.club ===
Our primary gateway for those accessing from the outside. Read-write, accessible via <code>news.tilde.club</code>, <code>nntp.tilde.club</code>, and <code>news.tildeverse.org</code>, port 119. See also https://news.tildeverse.org/.

=== tilde.team ===
Read-only, accessible via <code>news.tilde.team</code>, <code>nntp.tilde.team</code>, and <code>nntp.tildeverse.org</code>, port 119. You have to [[ssh]] inside to post.

=== cosmic.voyage ===
Read-only, accessible via <code>cosmic.voyage</code> , port 119. You have to [[ssh]] inside to post.

=== yourtilde.com ===
Read-write, accessible via <code>yourtilde.com</code>, port 119.

== News clients ==

=== slrn ===

[[slrn.html|slrn]] is a newsreader; see http://slrn.sourceforge.net/ for details.

First, add <code>export NNTPSERVER="localhost"</code> to your shellrc (<code>.bashrc</code>, <code>.zshrc</code>) and source it (<code>source path/to/.shellrc</code>).

Then run <code>slrn --create</code> to create the slrn config file, and lastly <code>slrn -d</code> to populate group names.

You’re now ready to run <code>slrn</code>! If the list is empty, press <code>L</code> (for list-groups) and enter <code>*</code> in the field for all groups. You might need to enter each group (pressing <code>space</code>) to get a proper count for how many (if any) unread messages there are.

=== pine/alpine ===

[[pine]] can read news; this [https://tilde.wiki/wiki/Tutorial http://www.chebucto.ns.ca/Help/News/PineNews.html] might help. You can also read the [http://www.washington.edu/pine/faq/news.html FAQ from U Washington].

In Pine do

# ‘S’ for setup, ‘C’ for config, then
# set ‘NNTP Server (for news)’ to news.tilde.club
# Then go back to the main menu, and pick Folder List,
# A for add, ^t for list

=== Emacs ===

<code>M-x gnus</code> in [[[#emacs|emacs]]] can read news, but you better know [[[#emacs|emacs]]] first before you start.

=== lynx ===

[[Lynx]] reads news, a la <code>lynx news://news.tilde.club/tilde.general</code>. It can even post news, but you have to design your own headers.

=== tin ===

There is also [[tin.html|tin]].

=== Thunderbird ===

If you’re using Thunderbird for email, it can also be configured for news.

# Go to the <code>Tools</code> menu, -> <code>Account Settings</code>
# Under <code>Account Actions</code> click <code>Add Other Account...</code>
# Select “Newsgroup Account”
# Type in the name you and email address you want associated with your posts. This can be your real name and tilde.club email address, or any other name (like your tilde username) and any other email address.
# For the “Newsgroup Server” type <code>news.tilde.club</code>. Give it a name (“news.tilde.club” works fine), confirm a couple of times and you’re done! You should see a new entry for news.tilde.club in your accounts list.
# Right click on “news.tilde.club” in your accounts list and click <code>Subscribe...</code>
# You should see a dialog with a tree of news topics. Click one and click <code>Subscribe</code> to subscribe to the topic. When Thunderbird is running, it will periodically check for new messages to each of these topics. You will also see a list of topics in your accounts list with unread counts.
# To post to a topic, open the topic and click the “Write” button.

=== SeaMonkey ===

The instructions for SeaMonkey are mostly the same as Thunderbird. The difference is that if you already created an account in SeaMonkey (whether for mail, RSS, or news), you create a new account by using either of the two options. Both of them will bring you to the Account Wizard.
* Go to the <code>File</code> menu, -> <code>Account</code>
* Go to the <code>Edit</code> menu, -> <code>Mail & Newsgroups Account Settings</code>, -> <code>Add Account...</code>

===Claws Mail===
*Setup[[File:Claws-mail-new-account-preferences-tilde-news.png|link=|thumb]]
**If you have any draft messages open, close them or you will get an error in the next step.
**In the "Configuration" menu, click "Create New Account..."
**In the "Basic" settings:
***Set the "Name of account" (optional).
***In "Personal information", Set "Full name" and "Mail address". Set "Organization" (optional).
***In "Server information", click the menu for "Protocol" and select "News (NNTP)".
***Set "News server", enter <code>nntp.tildeverse.org</code>, or your other news server address as appropriate.
**Set other settings as desired.
*Connecting via a Proxy[[File:Claws Mail - Tilde News - Proxy settings.png|link=|thumb]]
**If you need to access your tilde news via a proxy, you can do so in the account preferences as follos.
**If not in the initial account creation, go to the account preferences from the "Configuration menu": If you are in the tilde folders already, choose "Preferences for current account..."; otherwise choose "Edit accounts...", select the account from the list, and click "Edit".
**Go to the "Proxy" page.
**Check "Use proxy server", and enter the appropriate details.
**Note: to establish a proxy connection to your tilde server using SSH, you can the [https://man.openbsd.org/ssh#D ssh -D] option.
*Click "OK".

[[Category:Services]]
[[Category:Projects]]
[[Category:Protocols]]

File:Claws Mail - Tilde News - Proxy settings.png

2021-09-17T00:45:58Z

Cel:

Proxy server settings for a Tilde News account in Claws Mail

File:Claws-mail-new-account-preferences-tilde-news.png

2021-09-17T00:43:09Z

Cel:

Adding new a "Tilde News" account in Claws Mail